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playground:wikitalk [2023/12/04 21:01] – [A Suggestion of Where to Put Stuff, as One Player Has Practiced It] kuhsodasplayground:wikitalk [2024/06/09 21:53] (current) – Proposal for wrangling the "items" namespace and organizing food/cooking topics pandabutter
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   * Characters: individuals of the island, subdivided into   * Characters: individuals of the island, subdivided into
       *npc - non-player-controlled characters like Mister Stern, Maiko, Seth, Emily, Dan, etc.       *npc - non-player-controlled characters like Mister Stern, Maiko, Seth, Emily, Dan, etc.
 +      *monster - npc jungle enemies like Lions, or the Hounds of a Minor Diplomatic Incident.
       *player - player-controlled characters       *player - player-controlled characters
   * Gameplay: mostly deals with stuff that has to do with the game side of things.   * Gameplay: mostly deals with stuff that has to do with the game side of things.
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       *classes: container for beings of the Improbable Island (classes like Jokermorphs, Titans, etc. — individuals go above under characters)       *classes: container for beings of the Improbable Island (classes like Jokermorphs, Titans, etc. — individuals go above under characters)
       *lore: stuff about currently(ish) applicable island canon. If there is a lot of it on a single topic (as with Alexander Quandle's Squat-related stuff), it's getting a sub-header.       *lore: stuff about currently(ish) applicable island canon. If there is a lot of it on a single topic (as with Alexander Quandle's Squat-related stuff), it's getting a sub-header.
 +      *[[gameplay:pubgames|pubgames]] : a container for people to post about on-Island games.
       *story: (maybe people want to post stories of theirs as they did on the old enquirer? idk)       *story: (maybe people want to post stories of theirs as they did on the old enquirer? idk)
   * Places: overarching category   * Places: overarching category
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 (We should probably avoid making a category for official plot scenes, specifically for this purpose, huh.) (We should probably avoid making a category for official plot scenes, specifically for this purpose, huh.)
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 +**cd:** A quick note for anyone needing to scrape info from the old forums to fix red links. While they're completely and totally offline at the moment, the [[https://archive.org/|Wayback Machine]] archived a good number of posts! Currently, this is only useful for scraping text discussions (e.g. [[https://web.archive.org/web/20221206165517/http://enquirer.improbableisland.com/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=28412|what people sent to Rohit]], and (hypothetically) the pre-"report a monster sighting" player suggestion discussions), or images (e.g. old contest entries uploaded to the fileshare.)
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 +Flash files are right out. The URLs can be retrieved by clicking the "about this capture" button, but even with Ruffle or entering the URL directly into your browser, they can't be played. The source of some of those [[https://web.archive.org/web/20200925031208/https://enquirer.improbableisland.com/mediagallery/media.php?f=0&sort=0&s=20081023031332356|Pilot-era in-jokes]] remain an enigma for now.
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 +**panda:** Ok, I have thoughts about how to wrangle the "items" namespace. Currently we have so much stuff in there that all counts as "items" in a real-world sense, but doesn't work the same way in-game. My proposal is to limit **items** to just "stuff that goes in your inventory" (candy, grenades, mementos, etc). Weapons, armor, and mounts are **equipment**. Req, cigs, cobblestones, and Supporter Points can be grouped under **Currency** (and probably share a page).
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 +Then... food/drinks. I think we can avoid page overproliferation with judicious use of headers and internal links... here's my basic idea:
 +''gameplay:cooking'' contains info on the inventory-based cooking system. First paragraph: this is one way to refill stamina (''gameplay:stamina'') and reduce hunger (''gameplay:hunger''), the other way is to buy food at a restaurant (''outposts:restaurant''). The rest of the page is just about cooking - Maiko, meat, herbs, pans, etc. ''buildings:restaurant'' has the data tables about all the food sold at restaurants: one table for each restaurant, separated by headers. Then a more lore-focused description of, say, Cool Springs Cafe found in ''outposts:kittania#Cool Springs Cafe'' can have a little thing under the header saying "for the list of food sold here, see ''buildings:restaurant#Cool Springs Cafe''. (I have tested that this linking method works. Whee!)
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 +Pubs contain multiple types of gameplay, so they can have their own pages linked to on their respective Outpost pages. And they only sell a drink or two each, which have fewer stats to track than food, so it's not a big deal to have those listed in multiple places if need be.
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