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| ===== Exploring the Wiki ===== | ===== Exploring the Wiki ===== |
| Two great links that taste great together: the [[https://wiki.improbableisland.com/doku.php?id=start&do=recent|list of most recently fucked-about-with pages]] and the [[https://wiki.improbableisland.com/doku.php?id=start&do=index|sitemap]], both of which can be found under "Site tools" on any page. | Two great links that taste great together: the [[https://wiki.improbableisland.com/doku.php?id=start&do=recent|list of most recently fucked-about-with pages]] and the [[https://wiki.improbableisland.com/doku.php?id=start&do=index|sitemap]], both of which can be found under "Site tools" on any page. |
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| | ===== I'm new to the Island, help! ===== |
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| | You may find the [[gameplay:guides:newbie|Unofficial Rookie Advisory]] helpful, then! Despite many of the links currently being broken while we yell at our contractors to fix them, a lot of the information remains quite generally applicable. There is also a [[gameplay:guides:start|general page of guides]] if you want more information on a specific aspect of the game (sorry about the broken links, they are coming soon, <del>I</del> we promise). |
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| ===== What goes in the Wiki? ===== | ===== What goes in the Wiki? ===== |
| This wiki is for whatever random treasure or trash you want to stuff into it, but a place can be both //neat and tidy// AND //full of random crap,// and for proof of that you can ask anyone with a workshop. Remember, especially now in these fresh-wiki-smell times, that [[https://www.dokuwiki.org/namespaces|namespaces]] work just like folders on your hard drive, and the easiest time to figure out a folder structure is BEFORE you start filling it up with stuff and going "Hmm, does the What's New page belong in Guides or Meta?" and so forth. For example, [[characters:player:cavemanjoe|CavemanJoe's character is under characters:player:cavemanjoe]] and Mister Stern's character is under [[characters:npc:misterstern|characters:npc:misterstern]] and [[meta:history|the Island's history as a website can be at meta:history]], basically the colons work like / on your hard drive, you can go as many levels deep as seems appropriate. It'll be a lot easier to decide this structure //now//, in late 2023, than it will be to decide it later and move a bunch of pages. | This wiki is for whatever random treasure or trash you want to stuff into it, but a place can be both //neat and tidy// AND //full of random crap,// and for proof of that you can ask anyone with a workshop. Remember, especially now in these fresh-wiki-smell times, that [[https://www.dokuwiki.org/namespaces|namespaces]] work just like folders on your hard drive, and the easiest time to figure out a folder structure is BEFORE you start filling it up with stuff and going "Hmm, does the What's New page belong in Guides or Meta?" and so forth. For example, [[characters:player:cavemanjoe|CavemanJoe's character is under characters:player:cavemanjoe]] and Mister Stern's character is under [[characters:npc:misterstern|characters:npc:misterstern]] and [[meta:history|the Island's history as a website can be at meta:history]], basically the colons work like / on your hard drive, you can go as many levels deep as seems appropriate. It'll be a lot easier to decide this structure //now//, in late 2023, than it will be to decide it later and move a bunch of pages. |
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| See [[https://oldwiki.improbableisland.com/doku.php?do=index|this?]] That's the sitemap to the old wiki. As you can see, there's maybe two or three folders of stuff like Places guides that's decently organized, and then a mishmash of random pages inside the root of the site. How are folk supposed to find your cool stuff? It's like having your family photos, your memes and your tax documents all stuffed into the same folder in a tangled mess. Yeah, we're not gonna do that this time round, we know better now. If you have an idea for a page and there doesn't seem to be an appropriate folder ("namespace" in wiki-words) for it, you can conjure one into existence just by typing it out when making a new page. | See [[https://oldwiki.improbableisland.com/doku.php?do=index|this?]] That's the sitemap to the old wiki. As you can see, there's maybe two or three folders of stuff like Places guides that's decently organized, and then a mishmash of random pages inside the root of the site. How are folk supposed to find your cool stuff? It's like having your family photos, your memes and your tax documents all stuffed into the same folder in a tangled mess. Yeah, we're not gonna do that this time round, we know better now. If you have an idea for a page and there doesn't seem to be an appropriate folder ("namespace" in wiki-words) for it, you can conjure one into existence just by typing it out when making a new page. (There is a draft outline of namespaces available [[playground:wikitalk|here]], in case you want examples rather than just looking at the sitemap to see what already exists.) |
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| ===== Making new pages: two ways ===== | ===== Making new pages: two ways ===== |
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| == A Suggestion of Where to Put Stuff, as One Player Has Practiced It == | == A Suggestion of Where to Put Stuff, as One Player Has Practiced It == |
| | ** This tree is largely accurate, but has been superseded by the discussion [[playground:wikitalk|here]]**. |
| | * Characters: individuals of the island, subdivided into |
| | * npc - non-player-controlled characters like Mister Stern, Maiko, Seth, Emily, Dan, etc. |
| | * player - player-controlled characters |
| * Gameplay: mostly deals with stuff that has to do with the game side of things. | * Gameplay: mostly deals with stuff that has to do with the game side of things. |
| * concepts: for things like stamina, armor, marriage, buffs, weapons | * concepts: for things like stamina, armor, marriage, buffs, weapons |
| * guides: walking a player through how to engage with titans/stones/puzzle combat/places and programming | * guides: walking a player through how to engage with titans/stones/puzzle combat/places and programming |
| * classes: container for beings of the Improbable Island | * classes: container for beings of the Improbable Island (classes like Jokermorphs, Titans, etc. — individuals go above under characters) |
| * lore: stuff about currently(ish) applicable island canon. If there is a lot of it on a single topic (as with Alexander Quandle's Squat-related stuff), it's getting a sub-header. | * lore: stuff about currently(ish) applicable island canon. If there is a lot of it on a single topic (as with Alexander Quandle's Squat-related stuff), it's getting a sub-header. |
| * story: (maybe people want to post stories of theirs as they did on the old enquirer? idk) | * story: (maybe people want to post stories of theirs as they did on the old enquirer? idk) |
| * outpost - for the outposts themselves | * outpost - for the outposts themselves |
| * building - contains non-player-created buildings | * building - contains non-player-created buildings |
| * Items: contains concrete equippable/buff-granting items, I assume things like req and cigs and SFFC items too((One subpage for each category of item, maybe? Reference tables for weapons, armor, req items, cig items, supporter points items? Probably easier to maintain than if we had a subpage for literally every item. Not sure if food is better off here or under guides.))((So I'm with you on the idea that there should definitely be "container" pages — those should be the "containers" for things like weapons etc. The reason I think subpages for many items tend to creep in is that they //do// creep in in the old wiki -- not every weapon has a page, for instance, but there //are// a bunch that do, and also this would be a good place for joke weapons like the Admin Gun that shoots the admin with a banhammer at all your enemies?\\There //should// be a food guide, which goes under gameplay-guides, but there are pages on the old wiki devoted to thinks like the Unrep, for instance, which is clearly a more itemish sort of page.)) | * Items: contains concrete equippable/buff-granting items, I assume things like req and cigs and SFFC items too((One subpage for each category of item, maybe? Reference tables for weapons, armor, req items, cig items, supporter points items? Probably easier to maintain than if we had a subpage for literally every item. Not sure if food is better off here or under guides.))((So I'm with you on the idea that there should definitely be "container" pages — those should be the "containers" for things like weapons etc. The reason I think subpages for many items tend to creep in is that they //do// creep in in the old wiki -- not every weapon has a page, for instance, but there //are// a bunch that do, and also this would be a good place for joke weapons like the Admin Gun that shoots the admin with a banhammer at all your enemies?\\ |
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| | There //should// be a food guide, which goes under gameplay-guides, but there are pages on the old wiki devoted to thinks like the Unrep, for instance, which is clearly a more itemish sort of page.)) |
| * Meta: as CMJ suggested, I've been putting things that relate to Island history here | * Meta: as CMJ suggested, I've been putting things that relate to Island history here |
| * History: this is where stuff that no longer exists on the Island has been placed - things like Dwellings, and eventually Trains. | * History: this is where stuff that no longer exists on the Island has been placed - things like Dwellings, and eventually Trains. |
| | * concepts: this has been kind of my bucket for things that aren't //directly// relevant to gameplay, but which feel like fun things to port over in the spirit of the old wiki (and with every expectation that they'll continue to grow!) So this is where I put in //lie// or //reality tv// for instance. |
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| I'm no librarian and this is not at all comprehensive, nor have I decided where to put things like "req" or clans, //and most importantly// sort of "meta"/humor pages that used to exist like //lie//, //spoiler//, etc. so please let me know if there's a big gap in the tree you've spotted! | I'm no librarian and this is not at all comprehensive, nor have I decided where to put things like <del>"req"</del>((items:req)) or clans, //and most importantly// sort of "meta"/humor pages that used to exist like <del>//lie//</del>,((meta:concepts:lie))((should all humor/lie pages be kept in meta:concepts:lie? (e.g. meta:concepts:lie:item, meta:concepts:lie:outposts). Or is there a lie-container-per-container? (eg items:lie, places:outposts:lie). I know there's a lot of these pages so best to decide that early.))((oh, I actually hadn't thought of //lie// as a container -- in some cases I think that sort of ruins the fun to have the lie-ness flagged too early? I can see the argument for it, but I really had just been sort of pouring things into meta-concepts just generally. Lie as mentioned here is just itself a page. You'll note that there's a silent lordbuckethead category for //you// and //someone// in the site map already; I think my gut is to say meta-concepts and meta-items (and maybe meta-people) should kind of cover it. Like a new, awful animal-vegetable-mineral game!))((Roger that! (Also, in the interest of not adding any more brackets to this paragraph, I made us a notes page over in the playground. [[playground:wikitalk]])) //spoiler//, etc. so please let me know if there's a big gap in the tree you've spotted! |